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Post by duffer on Dec 28, 2020 22:03:07 GMT
Does'nt anyone do plain old fashioned stick welding anymore ? seems to be a dying art I agree the gas and stick is more delicate, and done right is in fact an aesthetic part of a completed job like perhaps the frame where it is seen and will last. I was taught it in the car factory, but it has disadvantages. The main ones being keeping the equipment and the cost. In a small home environment its just not worth it compared to a MIG that is ready to use whenever needed and only uses inert gas rather than the opposite. This old collector box would indeed look better if done with gas and stick, but truth is, it is out of sight when in use, and even now has a limited life. I also agree though that it is nice to just know it even looks good even, if it is out if sight. Whilst on the subject of job satisfaction, I saw a small sign on a workshop wall that read "Doing a good job around here is like pissing yourself in a dark suit. It gives you a lovely warm feeling.... but nobody notices."
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Post by comstar on Dec 28, 2020 22:12:21 GMT
As soon as I can get back to the UK I'll throw these your way as well as that 4 gallon tank Duffer. I'll peel those decals off before sending. Leave the decals to me. They often preserve the original colour underneath. I doubt it as I applied them myself 4 months ago.
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Post by duffer on Dec 29, 2020 10:08:41 GMT
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Post by BritPete on Dec 29, 2020 10:25:15 GMT
Very Impressed
That headlamp rim would have been in my scrap box
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Post by terryc on Dec 29, 2020 11:44:11 GMT
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Post by terryc on Dec 29, 2020 11:49:24 GMT
Does'nt anyone do plain old fashioned stick welding anymore ? seems to be a dying art which old fashioned stick welding do you mean though terry? if you mean a rod with the gas axe I new a true artist with that method (retired now) but his welding was a thing of beauty to behold (spent a fair bit of my yoof sat inside old bangers with fairy liquid bottles of water while he welded the floor up). the stick electric welders (I'v only ever used one to cut the tops off 50 gallon drums to make animal feeders) are (I think) a bit more geared towards welding girders together in construction. the advantage of mig is its a bit jack of all trades if your delicate enough (I'm not ) Electric stick welders were a bit more refined than that ,rods came in 12,10 8 ,6 swg and were good for welding anything from 2mm to girders less than 2mm you were better of with gas welding I was an apprentice plater/welder with British Steel never finished my apprentice ship though I transferred onto the production side of things half way through my wages jumped from £13 a week to £90 a week which was'nt bad in 1974 wish I'd stuck it out though .back then MIG & TIG were expensive ways of doing the same job
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Post by terryc on Dec 29, 2020 11:57:04 GMT
Does'nt anyone do plain old fashioned stick welding anymore ? seems to be a dying art I agree the gas and stick is more delicate, and done right is in fact an aesthetic part of a completed job like perhaps the frame where it is seen and will last. I was taught it in the car factory, but it has disadvantages. The main ones being keeping the equipment and the cost. In a small home environment its just not worth it compared to a MIG that is ready to use whenever needed and only uses inert gas rather than the opposite. This old collector box would indeed look better if done with gas and stick, but truth is, it is out of sight when in use, and even now has a limited life. I also agree though that it is nice to just know it even looks good even, if it is out if sight. Whilst on the subject of job satisfaction, I saw a small sign on a workshop wall that read "Doing a good job around here is like pissing yourself in a dark suit. It gives you a lovely warm feeling.... but nobody notices." When I say stick welding I'm referring to electric arc welding using a flux coated rod what you are calling gas and stick we just called gas welding obviously names have changed over the years
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Post by andy1kenobe on Dec 29, 2020 13:01:00 GMT
I replaced the sills on my 1972 Avenger using cut up washing machine panels and gas welded them on. Passed the MOT.
I had to patch the wheel arches and part of the sill on a Maestro and used an arc welder for that. My then brother-in-law said he could do it and the then wife trusted him more than me to do it so I relented. He was useless! I said let me try. Turned the welder down low, got a thin rod and off I went. He went in and said to his sister, " he can weld really good". You could say I p****d on their chips! Very satisfying.
I was taught how to weld by my Dad. He wasn't a welder by trade, but started off as a bus fitter for the council before the war. Ended up in civil engineering looking after the plant. Then on retirement, we both looked after my uncles cars. He was a funeral director and had a couple of Daimler DS420 limos, a hearse, 1956 Austin Princess limo, Austin 3L hearse and a 1922 Rolls Royce for weddings as well as a couple of estates and their personal cars. The older cars used get some period drama work for TV.
I've probably asked this before but does anyone remember it being suggested to wrap your collector box in cling film and bake it?
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Post by duffer on Dec 30, 2020 20:15:07 GMT
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Post by BritPete on Dec 30, 2020 21:05:08 GMT
Well I thought this one i did was bad so looking to see what you can do
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Post by BritPete on Dec 30, 2020 21:06:45 GMT
PS I have a template I made up to cut the replacement steel from if it will be any use
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Post by duffer on Dec 30, 2020 21:32:07 GMT
PS I have a template I made up to cut the replacement steel from if it will be any use Yes please Pete. I need all the help I can get. 😳
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Post by BritPete on Dec 30, 2020 21:37:00 GMT
PS I have a template I made up to cut the replacement steel from if it will be any use Yes please Pete. I need all the help I can get. 😳 Dig it out in the garage tomorrow and send you a copy
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Post by CTB on Dec 30, 2020 22:23:09 GMT
I guess I shouldn’t have got rid of the seat of my latest restoration
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Post by CTB on Dec 30, 2020 22:26:07 GMT
Joking apart, I may be able to help you out I’ll have a look what I’ve got tomorrow
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